Alien Nation: 'Black sheep' foreign crooks face boot as Swiss vote

Poslal-a kaptive, Sob, 27/11/2010 - 20:00

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Poslal-a kaptive, Pon, 29/11/2010 - 02:53

Pa postavimo švicarske številke v kontekst -
So lets put the Swiss numbers in context -

Prvič - 87& švicarskih imigrantov niso 'črne ovce' - temveč v večini belci in imajo državljanstvo ene od držav članic Evropske unije. (tisti ki oglašujejo evropske imigracijske zakone za Kanado naj morda ponovno razmislijo glede na švicarske številke. -- pod pogojem da držijo
First - 87% of Swiss immigrants are not "black"sheep - they are white and have European citizenship. (those of you advocating a Europe only immigration policy for Canada might wanna give that a second thought based on the Swiss numbers --- assuming those numbers stand for what you think they do )

Drugič - 20% populacije (imigrantov) ne povzročajo 70% kriminalnih dejanj. Oni predstavljajo 70% populacije v zaporih (64% če štejemo tiste na pogojnih)
Second- 20% of the population (immigrants) do not commit 70% of the crimes - they represent 70% of the prison population ( 64% if you exclude those on remand)

V resnici povzročijo imigrantje 48.9% kriminalnih dejanj. Razlog za večino zapornih kazni ima več za opraviti z švicarskim nizkim odstotkom zapornih kazni (okoli pol kanadske) in njihovo (švicarsko) uporabo 'house aresta' priporan na domu, ki se izvaja na lokalni ravni.
In fact immigrants commit 48.9 % of the crimes. The reason more of them are in jail has to do with Switzerland's low incarceration rates (about half of Canada's) and their use of community based sentences (e.g. house arrest).

A vseeno, da bi se kvalificirali za zapor na domu, ne smemo biti begosumen rizik (npr pobeg cez mejo v izogib odsluženju kazni) zato več imigrantov odsluži kazen v zaporu kakor v hišnem priporu.)
However, to qualify for a community sentence one can't be a flight risk ( i.e. skipping home across the boarder to skip out on your sentence) so more immigrants serve time in jail than under house arrest.

Pa vseeno, pravite, - 48.9% kriminala povzročeno s strani samo 20% populacije, je vseeno ogromno.Niti ne, če vpoštevamo distribucijo.
Still - you're thinking - 48.9% of crime committed by only 20% of the population is way out of whack. Well it isn't when you factor in age distributions.

Po letih glavnina imigrantov spada v razpon med 18 in 33 letom. Pridejo delati v Švico, zato ni čudno da so predvsem v 'delovnih letih'. Švicarska populacija pa ima širši razpon v letih, saj se rodi in umre na švicarskih tleh.
The majority of immigrants fall into the 18 - 33 age range. They come to Switzerland for work and so are mostly of working age. The Swiss population has a wider range of age distribution of course because they are born and grow old there.

Distribucija po letih pa je vsekakor pomembna saj kjerkoli na svetu pogledate statistiko je ravno 90% vseh kriminalnih dejanj povzročeno s strai tistih med 18 in 33 . letom.
Age distribution is important because anywhere you go in the world 90% of crime is committed by those in the 18 - 33 year old range.

Torej, če izvzamemo procent švicarske populacije pod 18. in nad 33. letom se izkaze da je procent med švicarji in imigranti približno isti
So if you exclude the percentage of Swiss population below 18 and over 33 the proportion of Swiss between the ages of 18-33 is about equal to the proportion of immigrants of the same age. ( e.g. there are approx. 35,000 people aged 25 yrs who are immigrants and approx. 40,000 25 yr old Swiss born in the country ... only about 20,000 immigrants aged 55 compared to 85,000 55 yr old swiss born)

Z drugimi besedami, imigrantje niso nič bolj nagnjeni k izvajanju kriminalnih dejanj v Švici kakor švicarji sami.
In other words, immigrants are no more prone to commit crime than Swiss born.